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    Default Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    if I give double strike to a Shisato, Whispering Hunter and it deals dmg, would opponent skip two untap phases?

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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    Yup.
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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    why is that?

    the card says:
    Whenever Shisato, Whispering Hunter deals combat damage to a player, that player skips his or her next untap step

    so lets say its turn one. The next untap step will happen in turn two. So even if many Shisatos deal damage to player on turn one, they all cause skipping untap step on turn 2 because that is the next untap step? and it wont afffect turn 3?

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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    What happens is that once one of the abilities causes you to skip one step, the other will wait for the next instance of that step and make you skip that.
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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    is it the same with a card such as Balduvian Rage? like if you cast it four times in the same turn, would you draw an extra card in the next 4 turns?

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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    No, you'd just draw four cards at the beginning of the next upkeep.
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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    why is it different?

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    Default Re: Shisato, Whispering Hunter and double strike?

    Because they're completely different abilities. One is a triggered ability, one is a replacement effect. At the beginning of the next upkeep, all triggered abilities from the Balduvian Rages go on the stack at the same time, simple. The replacement effect is a bit more complicated. By the time the next untap step would start, you have two replacement effects telling you to skip it. As the affected player, you choose which order they apply in. Once you've applied one, the other no longer applies, sicne there's no longer an untap step to skip. Therefore, you still have one instance of the ability waiting to take place, which will happen the next time there's actually an untap step to skip.
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