Hey guys, I'm relatively new to the site, and I was wondering if anyone could help me find the value of these games. They are CIB, both appear to be complete, and in good condition, the bottom of the fortress box is a little rough. They both appear to be complete, fortress has player manual and 1984 catalogue, both in excellent condition, and floppy in sleeve, and ultima has everything pictured. Does any one have any idea what these are worth?