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    Default I need help with my deck

    Hi guys, I am new to magic and my deck builder skills are not the sharpest...

    The main idea of this deck is to cast Emrakul, so please take a look. Any comment will be really appreciated.

    Thanks.


    Creatures
    4 Wall of Omens
    2 Stoneforge Mystic
    4 Birds of Paradise
    3 Llanowar Elves
    4 Kor Duelist
    4 Elvish Piper
    2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    2 Sigiled Paladin
    1 Mul Daya Channelers
    1 Kazandu Tuskcaller
    Lands
    4 Arid Mesa
    3 Sunpetal Grove
    1 Verdant Catacombs
    7 Plains
    7 Forest

    Instants
    4 Path to Exile
    4 Summoning Trap
    1 Momentus Fall

    Equipments
    1 Basilisk Collar
    1 Whispersilk Cloak
    Total 60


    Sideboard

    3 Devout LightCaster
    4 Kor Firewalker
    4 White Knight
    2 Marshal's Anthem

    2 Brave the Elements

    Total 15

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    I'm to tired to get to in depth atm but one thing I see wrong right now is that you have Summoning Trap and the whole point of casting Emrakul is to get his ability which you don't get if you trap him into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kappu1 View Post
    I'm to tired to get to in depth atm but one thing I see wrong right now is that you have Summoning Trap and the whole point of casting Emrakul is to get his ability which you don't get if you trap him into play.
    Are you talking about the extra turn?

    Is not the same as I cast him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taytus View Post
    Are you talking about the extra turn?

    Is not the same as I cast him?
    No, you just put it in play.

    But if the flying 15/15 protection from colored spells is not good enough for you... then I dont know what to say...

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    You fail to remember the reason you want to cast him is so you get the extra turn to swing in with him especially since he dies to DoJ and Martial Coup. How would you feel if you cast him just to see him get wiped by a sweeper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kappu1 View Post
    You fail to remember the reason you want to cast him is so you get the extra turn to swing in with him especially since he dies to DoJ and Martial Coup. How would you feel if you cast him just to see him get wiped by a sweeper?
    Thats why Summoning trap is an instant and the Piper can be used as an activated ability...

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    Even with Piper in play you still won't get the extra turn because your not casting him your just putting him onto the battlefield. This may be a good question for Arix because I don't think your casting him using Piper.

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    I already playtested 4 times.

    In the first time I put emrakul in play in turn 4.
    Second playtesting, put emrakul in play in turn 5.
    Third Playtesting I draw lands and kor duelist, and lands ands lands forever...and lost the game.
    Fourth game put emrakul in play in turn 4.

    I have the notations for every single movement, they are in spanish , so give me some minutes and I share with you guys.

    Thanks for all your inputs.

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Taytus View Post
    I already playtested 4 times.

    In the first time I put emrakul in play in turn 4.
    Second playtesting, put emrakul in play in turn 5.
    Third Playtesting I draw lands and kor duelist, and lands ands lands forever...and lost the game.
    Fourth game put emrakul in play in turn 4.

    I have the notations for every single movement, they are in spanish , so give me some minutes and I share with you guys.

    Thanks for all your inputs.
    I am Mexican so you can copy paste them on spanish and I'll get them :P

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    Cool!!, gracias Biefall.

    summoning trap
    plain
    Kor duelist
    Elvish piper
    summoning trap
    forest
    Arid mesa

    T1 Arid mesa-busco una tierra- juego kor duelist
    robo birds of paradise
    t2 juego forest-taped for birds of paradise
    swing for 1

    robo arid mesa

    t3 juego arid mesa, busco plain
    juego elvish piper

    t4 robo emrakul


    ----------Test 2------------------


    plain
    verdant catacombs
    wall of omens
    forest
    wall of omens
    summoning trap
    plain

    t1 juego verdant catacombs busco forest

    robo kor duelist

    t2 juego plain, bajpo wall of omens---robo carta--birds of paradise
    robo kazandu tuskcaller

    t3 bajo forest--bajo wall--robo carta--forest
    bajo birds of paradise

    robo bsislisk collar

    t4 juego forest

    juego kor duelist-equipo basilik collar

    malas noticias robo un emrakul

    T5 bajo un plain bajo summoning trap,

    de las 7 cartas la 5ta es el otro emrakul


    ----------test 3

    wall of omens, forest, birds of paradise, summoning trap, emrakul, elvish piper,llanowar elves

    t1 forest, birds of paradise

    t2 wall of omens---robo carta--plain

    robo whispersilk cloak

    t3 plain, bajo llanowars elves

    robo summoning trap (shit)

    t4 juego elvish piper

    robo elvish piper

    t5 uso la habilidad




    I posted only the games I cast Emrakul, which where 3/4 games.
    Thanks.
    Last edited by Taytus; 04-21-2010 at 08:46 AM. Reason: I posted only the games I cast Emrakul

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Sorry for the double post, but you guys think this deck could be competitive enough?

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Taytus View Post
    Cool!!, gracias Biefall.

    summoning trap
    plain
    Kor duelist
    Elvish piper
    summoning trap
    forest
    Arid mesa

    T1 Arid mesa-busco una tierra- juego kor duelist
    robo birds of paradise
    t2 juego forest-taped for birds of paradise
    swing for 1

    robo arid mesa

    t3 juego arid mesa, busco plain
    juego elvish piper

    t4 robo emrakul


    ----------Test 2------------------


    plain
    verdant catacombs
    wall of omens
    forest
    wall of omens
    summoning trap
    plain

    t1 juego verdant catacombs busco forest

    robo kor duelist

    t2 juego plain, bajpo wall of omens---robo carta--birds of paradise
    robo kazandu tuskcaller

    t3 bajo forest--bajo wall--robo carta--forest
    bajo birds of paradise

    robo bsislisk collar

    t4 juego forest

    juego kor duelist-equipo basilik collar

    malas noticias robo un emrakul

    T5 bajo un plain bajo summoning trap,

    de las 7 cartas la 5ta es el otro emrakul


    ----------test 3

    wall of omens, forest, birds of paradise, summoning trap, emrakul, elvish piper,llanowar elves

    t1 forest, birds of paradise

    t2 wall of omens---robo carta--plain

    robo whispersilk cloak

    t3 plain, bajo llanowars elves

    robo summoning trap (shit)

    t4 juego elvish piper

    robo elvish piper

    t5 uso la habilidad




    I posted only the games I cast Emrakul, which where 3/4 games.
    Thanks.
    I'll play test mine after this weekend , when I get enough cards to make a good one

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Taytus View Post
    Sorry for the double post, but you guys think this deck could be competitive enough?
    Competitive enough. No.

    Because I think a RDW will burn everything in the field then your face before you can get enough mana sources (6)

    A Boros would be the very same thing.

    A UW control might had more problems on it.

    BUT if we change it B for W, you could have enough mass removal and sacrificing crap with life gaining (Consuming vapors and consume the meek) to actually hold enough to play Emrakul.

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Even when I have my 4 kor firewalkers?

    Maybe some mass removal will help?
    Thanks.

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Quote Originally Posted by Taytus View Post
    Even when I have my 4 kor firewalkers?

    Maybe some mass removal will help?
    Thanks.
    You might want to use day of judgment or all is dust now that they are out.

    You are sidebording the devour lightcasters which is good. Because even with the firewalkers a doom blade or deathmark can just blow them away.

    I had a B/R aggro deck, my friend maindecked 4 light casters and 4 firewalkers... I just gave him the game.

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    Elvish piper will not cast Emrakul, niether will summoning trap. (Just to clarify)

    Also, Day of Judgement, Journey to Nowhere, and Oblivion Ring can all get rid of Emrakul.

    Why/How?
    Day of Judgement is a sweeper and doesn't target.
    Journey to Nowhere and Oblivion Ring don't target until they enter the battlefield, meaning that they now permanents and are no longer considered spells. So Emrakul does not have protection from them.

    That being said, if you don't cast him and get the extra turn, it's possible that Emrakul won't last long enough for you to attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakepirate View Post
    Elvish piper will not cast Emrakul, niether will summoning trap. (Just to clarify)

    Also, Day of Judgement, Journey to Nowhere, and Oblivion Ring can all get rid of Emrakul.

    Why/How?
    Day of Judgement is a sweeper and doesn't target.
    Journey to Nowhere and Oblivion Ring don't target until they enter the battlefield, meaning that they now permanents and are no longer considered spells. So Emrakul does not have protection from them.

    That being said, if you don't cast him and get the extra turn, it's possible that Emrakul won't last long enough for you to attack.
    I'll quote myself.

    "Thats why Summoning trap is an instant and the Piper can be used as an activated ability... "

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    Default Re: I need help with my deck

    As Biefall said, I can "cast" Emrakul at the end of my rival turn, so at the beginning of my turn that baby is ready for action.

 

 

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