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    Default magic the gathering sorceress queen 1 counter

    what if I use sorceress queen ability on a creature that has a +1/+1 counter?

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    Default Re: magic the gathering sorceress queen 1 counter

    Sorceress Queen's power/toughness setting ability applies in sublayer 7b, and the counter applies in 7d. So first the creature becomes 0/2, then the counter is applied and makes it 1/3.
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    Default Re: magic the gathering sorceress queen 1 counter

    whats 7b and 7d?

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    Sublayers. When determining a creature's power and toughness, you move down the list of sublayers and apply them in order.

    Say, for example, there are 8 cards in graveyards and you control a Lord of Extinction with two +1/+1 counters on it, and a Glorious Anthem. It gets hit by Sorceress Queen and About Face. Here's what you do:

    Sublayer 7a: Characteristic-defining effects. The Lord's own ability makes it 8/8.
    Sublayer 7b: Abilities that set power/toughness to a specific number. Queen makes it 0/2.
    Sublayer 7c: Changes that modify but don't set p/t. Anthem makes it 1/3.
    Sublayer 7d: Changes from counters. The two +1/+1 counters make it 3/5.
    Sublayer 7e: Effects that switch power/toughness. About Face makes it a 5/3.

    And there you go.
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