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    Default Death’s Presence rules and Pack Rat magic

    If I have Death’s Presence out

    and I have four rats out

    one of them is a Pack Rat

    if pack rat dies, do I get 3 or 4 counters?

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    Default Re: Death’s Presence rules and Pack Rat magic

    Death's Presence checks the creature's power as it last existed on the battlefield. At that point, Pack Rat was a 4/4, so it gives four counters.
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    Default Re: Death’s Presence rules and Pack Rat magic

    but as it dies and leaves from battlefield to graveyard doesnt its power become 3 since i now control only 3 rats?

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    Default Re: Death’s Presence rules and Pack Rat magic

    Once it's actually in the graveyard, yes. But as I said, Death's presence doesn't care about what the creature is in the graveyard - it cares about what the creature was when it was last on the battlefield. Pack Rat leaves the battlefield as a 4/4 creature. There's never a point where it was on the battlefield as a 3/3.
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    Default Re: Death’s Presence rules and Pack Rat magic

    what if pack rat and another rat die same time is it still 4 counters?

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    Default Re: Death’s Presence rules and Pack Rat magic

    Yes.
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