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    Default undermine counterspell rulings cast on spell cannot be countered magic

    Can I cast undermine on a spell that cant be countered such as Combust? Will other player still lose 3 life?

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    Default Re: undermine counterspell rulings cast on spell cannot be countered magic

    This is a hard ruling. One of two answers:

    No. Undermine has to have a target to be cast, and it can't target a spell that can't be countered.

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    Yes, as it doesn't have protection from counters, it just can't be countered. The Undermine targets Combust, they lose 3 life, and combust resolves.

    In my personal opinion, I think the fact that it can't be countered removes the ability for undermine to target it as it's not a legal target, but I can't give you a definite answer.

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    Default Re: undermine counterspell rulings cast on spell cannot be countered magic

    Undermine (and any counterspell) can target a spell that can't be countered. It's like targeting an indestructible artifact with Shatter - it's a legal target, it just won't do anything. And yes, the controller of the spell will lose 3 life even though the spell isn't countered.
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    Default Re: undermine counterspell rulings cast on spell cannot be countered magic

    what happens if I target a urza's rage with dissipate, and when urza's rage resolves its target is not legal so its countered, is it exiled or does it go to graveyard?

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    Default Re: undermine counterspell rulings cast on spell cannot be countered magic

    Always keep a card's Oracle text in mind. Dissipate says:
    Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, exile it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard.
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    Default Re: undermine counterspell rulings cast on spell cannot be countered magic

    Quote Originally Posted by Arix View Post
    Always keep a card's Oracle text in mind. Dissipate says:
    In case you can't put 2 and 2 together, this means you can target Urza's Rage with Dissipate but it be able to counter or exile anything.

 

 




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